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I already had a lot of confidence back then and at least an average level of game, so I made out with (or just kissed on the lips) something like 25 women on first dates in a row. I don’t remember what they were exactly, but they were bad. My lay ratios tripled in less than two months (I think that’s the number; it was a long time ago now).I got a lot of makeouts, but I wasn’t getting laid. It was also during this time that I found some women would have an extreme amount of ASD on the second date when I tried to have sex with them, even though they were clearly attracted to me.Intermediate guys are usually very excited and enthusiastic; it’s almost the opposite of being a beginner.On the flip side, intermediate guys often get easily frustrated.When talking about dating and relationship techniques, I will sometimes refer to those who are “beginners,” those who are at an “intermediate” level of skill, and those who are “advanced.” I’ve received some questions about this, and about how I’ve never clarified what these terms actually mean.It’s only fair that if I use these terms, I should be more specific about their definitions.
At one extreme, you’ve got guys who are literally virgins and who are terrified of talking to women.
The only sex they’ve received thus far in their life is the sex that dropped into their laps through women they met organically at their work, through family, school, or their social circles.
Many beginners have reached the point where they can meet girls and get first dates or day2 meets (through night game, daygame, or online dating), but they don’t yet have the balls and/or the skill to close the deal with any predictability.
If they do get laid, and usually they don’t, it’s almost by accident, in that they happen to be exactly the woman’s type to begin with and didn’t screw it up too badly.
Most beginners tend to come in two flavors; young guys who haven’t had a lot of woman experience yet, and older guys who are just out of a long-term relationship or divorce, and who are very out of practice.
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Putting in the numbers starts to get to them, and when women don’t play ball the way the men expect, these men often get upset.